Pasolini: Would you say that there is such a thing as normal sexuality and abnormal sexuality?
Ungaretti: Listen - every man is made differently, I mean, in his physical make-up, and made differently in his spiritual make-up, isn’t he? So, all men are in their own way abnormal, all men are in one sense against nature. So, from the start, the act of civilisation which is an act of human power over nature, is an act against nature.
Reblogged from the original Italian in hardcorejudas:
Pasolini: Secondo lei, esiste la normalità e la anormalità sessuale?
Ungaretti: Senta… Ogni uomo è fatto in un modo diverso, dico, nella sua struttura fisica, è fatto in un modo diverso, è fatto in un modo diverso anche nella sua combinazione spirituale, no? Quindi tutti gli uomini sono a loro modo anormali, tutti gli uomini sono in un certo senso in contrasto con la natura. E questo sin dal primo momento, l’atto di civiltà che è un atto di prepotenza umana sulla natura, è un atto contro natura.
(via coactusvolui)
This caught my eye. Now, don’t get me wrong. Most gay men in the world are criminalised, persecuted, deprived of stable and accepted relationships, and suffer every sort of discrimination and violence. This post is not about them. It’s about people like me, lucky enough to live where gay sex and gay relationships are legal and accepted, and discrimination against gay people is illegal, and violence against gay people is treated more severely than ordinary violence (aggravated assault it is called). I don’t know if abcdefjames is in that sort of place. But, just picking up on his point…
I don’t think that anyone’s sexuality or love life is simple. And I don’t suppose there is anyone who hasn’t sometimes wished they were different, sexually or in some other way. But for me it comes down to identity. Wishing not to be who I am, whoever I am, would be a sort of suicide (not that thinking of suicide isn’t pretty common also - the playwright Sir David Hare said “As a young man, of course, you think about killing yourself. Who doesn’t?”)
Straight men envy gay men because straight men think that men are less complicated sexually than women and that sex with men would, therefore, be easier and less complicated than sex with women. I’m sure they’re wrong about that.
Bisexual men find their lives, perhaps, the most complicated of all. They are too straight to be gay and too gay to be straight. There is prejudice against bisexual men even (you could say especially) in the gay community - indeed, it is common for gay men to deny the existence of bisexuality at all - suggesting that it is just a cowardly way of denying homosexuality, or a stage in discovering some sort of true gay sexuality.
abcdefjames blogged I really wish I wasn’t gay sometimes:
Depressing post, sorry, but I’m just musing:
I don’t mind being gay. I’ve accepted it, and I do love it most days. But then there are days when I just wish I were straight, for the sheer simplicity of it. Well, it’d be simpler. Or not even straight. I;d settle for bisexual. I know I’m gonna wake up tomorrow and not feeling this way but I do now, because I see all these couples and all these beautiful women and I’m like “FFS, why won’t you react, dick?!”
Le sigh.
